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Lap-sau Drill

30 Mar

Lap-sau is known by two different terms. The first, “Grabbing-hand,” refers to the individual movement itself. When you grab the arm of the opponent, this is Lap-sau.

The second, “Deflecting-arm,” refers to a series of drills designed to take a practitioner through the basics of sparring while focusing on “offloading” their force. Hence, the “deflecting” part of this term.

While most schools will work Lap-sau in one way or another, some do not focus on it that much while others place a great deal of emphasis on it. Some feel that it “just happens” during their training and others will engage a purpose-driven curriculum built around it at a particular stage of training.

The AWCA prescribes to the latter in that the Lap-sau curriculum creates a variety of real-world scenarios, while simultaneously honing the Wing Chun skill set itself. For example, section 1 of Lap-sau teaches us how to respond fluidly with trapping and pinning, as well as how to come from underneath the opponent’s bridge arm in order to effectuate a powerful strike.

Further, it reinforces the concept that you should never (or rarely) have both of your arms in contact with just one of your opponent’s arms. If you do, then your opponent knows where both of your arms are, and if he/she is skilled in taking advantage of this, you have just given up your defense.

If we strive to take advantage of when both of our opponent’s arms are in contact with just one of ours, naturally we do not want to be in the same situation. Lap-sau teaches us how “not” to do this, but surprisingly, many schools actually “do” do this. And regularly.

So let’s examine how we train the Lap-sau drill here at the AWCA, and how it can improve your response time.

While many practitioners will be in a sideling position to their opponent and “arc” their punch in, we keep our centerline on the opponent and punch straight. Additionally, we never make contact with both arms of our training partner unless we are attacking or defending; instead, we replace the contact hand with the incoming attacking hand.

What does this do?

First, keeping our centerline on the opponent vs. being in a sideling position ensures that we have equal use of both arms at all times. Yes, being in a sideling position when necessary does have viable uses, but note that I said “when necessary” vs. “always.” Some prefer a sideling position because they think it makes you a smaller target, but in reality, you will not be much “smaller” when turned to the side vs. having your centerline on the opponent.

Juk-sun-ma, or “Sideling-stance,” has its place in Wing Chun, but we only assume it when/if the opponent drives in with so much force that our current position would be comprised if we stand our grand (i.e. force-vs-force). If we train to overcome force with our own physical, muscular power, then what happens when we get older? There will come a time when just simply getting older will remove (or severely limit) the muscular force we have in our youth, so training to capitalize on physical strength is temporary at best.

Instead, learning how to “borrow” the attacker’s force allows us to make use of it. And the Lap-sau drill’s concepts are directly related to that. It is here that we can put into practice these concepts and learn to make use of them is a controlled sparring environment.

Second, rather than keeping both arms on the opponent’s arms and utilizing an “arcing” type of attack, we punch as straight as possible.

We all know that the closest distance between two points is a straight line. That precept has been “drummed” into our brains since day 1. So if that is true (and it is), then why do so many arc their punches vs. punching straight and getting there faster?

I cannot answer that because I really do not know. What I do know, however, is that when working with those that “do” train Lap-sau in this manner, it was extremely easy to circumvent their attacks. When I turned them towards me, though, and they started punching straight? They were in position to defend without having to do anything extra.

From the basic Lap-sau drill, a variety of positive attributes are built, provided that the correct concepts from the foundation of Wing Chun are applied. Vary them, however, and it becomes the reverse: a myriad of bad habits result and your defense becomes replete with holes.

So, if one’s structure is in the proper place when working the Lap-sau drill, we can see immediate improvements:

  1. Staying on the centerline vs. to the side keeps your arms at equal length, which allows either to do what is needed vs. one “having” to defend and the other “having” to attack.

  2. Staying on the centerline allows you to respond to either side as needed, where being in a Sideling-stance means having to turn 90-degrees to the other side if your opponent happens to attack there.

  3. Having just one arm on the opponent’s arm vs. both means that you are not “giving away” your arm position to the opponent (if he knows where your arms are, he knows how to proceed).

  4. Driving straight in with your punches vs. “arcing” them means that they get there faster. They are harder to see, which also makes them harder to defend against.

“When” should the Lap-sau drill be introduced? Personally, I like introducing the drill after a student has first learned Chi-san-sau, or “Single-arm Sticking-hand.” Others, however, will introduce Lap-sau “before” any Chi-sau training.

Regardless of the “when’s,” keep in mind the reasons for the drill and what it is supposed to accomplish. Do not blindingly rush through it just to do something or just to get through it; instead, “listen” to what it is telling you about what you are doing and “how” you are doing it. Then you will be able to focus on where you can improve and how you can make your Wing Chun even more efficient.

 
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Chi-sau vs Lap-sau vs Lat-sau

26 Feb

For many, the terminology of Wing Chun/ Ving Tsun/ Wing Tsun can become very confusing. What one lineage uses for their terminology can differ so much for someone else that it looks night and day. This is especially true when we consider the various stages of Chi-sau training.

Let’s take a moment to examine some of these stages and see how their terms differ.

Chi-sau is “Sticking-hands” (what some refer to as “sticky” hands, as well as “Clinging-arms.”) The concept here is to remain “stuck” to your opponent only long enough to feel the direction and force of the attack, which then directs you to the appropriate response. We do not want to stay “stuck” the opponent at every moment, though, because then we would never be able to strike; instead, we stay stuck at the beginning so we know what he/she is doing, and then we know how to respond.

Lap-sau is “Deflecting-arms.” As a movement, Lap-sau means “Grabbing-hand” but as a drill it means “Deflecting-arms.” Not all families perform the Lap-sau drill in the same way, just like they don’t train Chi-sau in the same manner, either. On the whole, however, Lap-sau refers to “deflecting.”

There are two thoughts to Chi-sau and Lap-sau. Some training single-arm Chi-sau (Chi-dan-sau), then Lap-sau drill, then double-arm Chi-sau (Chi-sheung-sau, Poon-sau, Luk-sau, etc.)

Others train Lap-sau and then single-arm Chi-sau, and still others do not train single-arm Chi-sau at all; instead, they go right into double-arm.

Personally? I was taught single-arm, then Lap-sau, then double-arm. I have also seen the same organization start out a few years later teaching Lap-sau, then single-arm, then double-arm. I still pass on what I learned and how I learned it, but after experimenting with how the arms seem to learn best? I like the idea of working the Lap-sau drill first, then going into the Chi-sau curriculums.

With Lap-sau, you get a sense of more realistic contact during this crucial phase of training. You get used to the “bangs” of contact and how your body responds, as well as how to take advantage of the opportunities that present themselves when the opponent opens up. And once a practitioner has a feel for Lap-sau, Chi-sau seems easier to learn because they are already used to the contact.

So where does Lat-sau fit in?

Lat-sau is a fighting drills curriculum, usually not seen in the same way with all families. Although all of the lineages “do” have the curriculum in one fashion or another, it is generally not structured in such a logically progressive fashion as we teach it. And since our training stemmed from Master Leung Ting’s WingTsun, that is what we continue to pass on (although we are no longer a part of Master Leung’s organization, we have the utmost respect for him and all of his practitioners).

For those unfamiliar with Lat-sau, think of it this way.

You have learned Pak-sau and punch, which is Pak-dar (Slap-hand with simultaneous attack). Where Lat-sau is concerned, we want to put this drill into as realistic a scenario as possible. 

We begin by stepping further away than usual, somewhere in the area that you might really be prior to a real fight. Then, we engage the opponent. In addition to “just” Pak-dar, we have to work our explosive stepping, our body positioning, and also engaging an opponent that won’t “let” us do what we want.

Just like a real opponent.

We work through the Pak-dar drill until competent, then we add side-steps. Then the opponent punches with hooks, responds with kicks, etc., pretty much anything they want.

Now we work Tan-dar, Fook-dar, Gaun-dar, and the other drills learned throughout our Wing Chun training so that we can gain valuable fight training without killing each other. :) In this way, we break out of the “stoic” and sometimes “dead” drills that can lead to a false sense of security, and replace it with “live,” ever-changing situations that keeps us fresh and always learning.

The stages of Chi-sau, Lap-sau and Lat-sau training vary from school-to-school, but on the whole, everyone is teaching basically the same things (just not in the same way or at the same time). Some think that various schools are “lacking” but this is from an uneducated view; on the contrary (and at least from the years that I’ve seen other methods), there are more similarities than differences.

You just have to keep an open mind and LOOK for them vs. automatically assuming that it isn’t there.

For more information about Chi-sau and Lap-sau curriculum training, I recommend the AWCA eBook Training Series’ Volume 3: Chi-sau.